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Anyone else feel like this?

I am at the point where a side job is nice for stable income; but it is also crushing because it robs me of 25+ hours a week I could be drawing and getting stuff done. More comic pages, more commissions... more anything.

I know a job is needed, but I feel so depressed going to work and not drawing or making artwork.

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NukeRooster Featured By Owner Sep 4, 2016
I felt this way too, had nightmares about it. Now I realize how precious time is when it comes to art.
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Shinerai Featured By Owner Sep 3, 2016  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Yes I feel like this except I'm robbed 40-60 hours, depending on the time of year.
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Galvan1c-Miscr3ation Featured By Owner Sep 3, 2016  Hobbyist General Artist
I guess it's a fine line between art and job.  It might take a while to get ahold of a job that gives you the hours you want, but they do exist.  Try to keep an eye out for a part-time job with decent pay is all I can say.  

Also, if you're already cutting sleep for art, this will sound weird, but perhaps when you get home sleep for about four hours, then wake up for about 2 more hours, then sleep the rest of the time you normally would.  Supposedly that's a relatively normal sleep pattern for humans with no sense of time by sunlight, so it might work better than just pushing your whole night back.  
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BC-Rain Featured By Owner Sep 3, 2016  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I feel like the closest you could do is try to get an outside, art related job? It might not be work you personally are interested in, but as time moves on you could move up in ranking and get yourself in a situation that benefits you.

Avoiding full-time jobs to make more time for art/comics might make you feel better now, but in the long run it might hurt more than help you. Do you see yourself staying in your current situation a year or two from now- just barely making it? Maybe if you got a full time job, you would be able to save up money (for example, it could help you get to that internship in India), or even if it's a studio job, you could eventually be in a position where you are in charge and giving orders in a few years- maybe you could have a small team working on a project you made up. It would make use of all the effort you put into school too (or at least that's what I believe).
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cianid255 Featured By Owner Sep 3, 2016
I agree with DamaiMikaz  Kat, no matter how much it hurts not being able to do what we love we need to suck up and move on while doing what we can to keep our love for art going while keeping us financially stable.

True its hard but look at it this way, if you didnt have a job you wouldnt be able to draw at all so its a necessity and think of it as a part of your art carrier, As long as you dont try and make up for ''lost'' time you spent on work you will be fine, dont push yourself and end up falling asleep once more on the job or being inattentive. 

What you have now is stability, and many others would probably want to have that really badly......
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Ahkward Featured By Owner Sep 3, 2016  Professional Traditional Artist
Well I don't have any other choice but to sacrifice sleep time to get more art time in. I have nothing else left to give. I never go out, I have errands that NEED running, so I can't give up that time. I really only, eat, sleep, go to work or draw. I pretty much do NOTHING else. ever.

So sleep time is all I have to give and I've been giving some of it, yet I feel like it is still not enough.

While I understand many would kill for my stability, I kinda don't care? I don't want this life, working a regular job. It's not what I want. I didn't pay almost 150k to learn to animate and draw to go work at a damn print shop. No way in hell I'm going to settle for that BS. So my only real options are a better job or sleeping less. I'm opting to sleep less.
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Owl-Flight Featured By Owner Sep 3, 2016  Professional Digital Artist
Sadly yes, it really sucks but at least it means you are able to support yourself with your art. My "side" job is art really, I don't have much time for it with my "job" which is taking care of a disabled family member I live with. It pays food, rent, and some extras but boy do I wish I could get a part time job and draw instead.
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Ahkward Featured By Owner Sep 3, 2016  Professional Traditional Artist
Idk where you live, but my part time job only brings in about 700 a month and I get paid more than most people in my area do and I STILL cannot even afford life out here. If I wanted to live out here, I'd have to cut my art time in half, about 60 hours a week down to 30 and get another part time job to survive with no issues. As it is now, I work 60 ish hours a week on art and 25 in a shop, yet I barely make it still. It might sound silly since I know a lot of people would kill for 60 hours of art time each week, but to be fair I sleep very little to have that time.
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Owl-Flight Featured By Owner Sep 4, 2016  Professional Digital Artist
sorry my comment ended up more bitter than I intended, I am a bit bitter but not because of you XD sorry for directing it at you. My point was at least you're able to work at all, despite the fact that your situation really sucks you DO get to do what you love. You'll struggle with it, it won't get easier, at least not for a long time. But at least you haven't given into it, your dream isn't an easy one, but you haven't given up and that's important.
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DamaiMikaz Featured By Owner Sep 3, 2016  Hobbyist Digital Artist
In all honesty; I think that's the truth for most of us.
There's only a few people for which art can be a full job. The rest of us just has to work to get enough money to pay the bills, and do art as something on the side. 
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Ahkward Featured By Owner Sep 3, 2016  Professional Traditional Artist
I guess I just refuse to accept art will always be part time for me, and it isn't. I work on art over 60 hours a week. So it's more than a full time job, it just doesn't pay like it for me. It isn't on the side, I work from 5-10 at my regular job, then I do art as much as possible when home, yet it still feels like I never get enough time for it.

I didn't go to a damn art school and work my ass off over 6 years to have art fade away and be some side hobby. However at the moment I can't see how I can make it work... I could apply to a studio, but I don't want to work on their stuff, I want to work on mine. ono
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DamaiMikaz Featured By Owner Sep 10, 2016  Hobbyist Digital Artist
As demotivating as it sounds, at some point you have to come to the realization that you can't earn a full income with art, and come to terms with it.
Earning a full income with art is rare. It's for a reason there are more specialized heart surgeons than there are fulltime artists. It's even rarer to earn that money with your own intellectual property. Most artists that do well in terms of income either work for a company or do loads of fanart.

I personally know a lot of people that have done art school with the dream of becoming an independent artist, but eventually chose another path because they just couldn't support themselves or their family. Some of them do entirely different jobs now, and some of them were co-workers of mine that opted for commercial design, which is satisfying too. There's no shame in admitting that sometimes it just doesn't work and you have to opt for other solutions. Quite the contrary; I would say it's part of being a responsible adult. Life is a lot more enjoyable when you don't have constant worries about being able to pay the bills, and art is a lot more enjoyable as a hobby when you don't have the constant pressure of having to sell stuff. 

Because in all honesty (and I'm talking from experience here, unfortunately); How long are you gonna keep up with working 60+ hours a week? I'm not just talking about mentally, but also physically. The human body isn't made to work that much. 
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Ahkward Featured By Owner Sep 11, 2016  Professional Traditional Artist
I have been working 60+ hours a week since I have been in college, there were a few times I pushed it. However I have always been running at 110%, my whole life, and while I know it isn't healthy, I never plan to give up on the idea. If I end up poor, but can survive, so be it. I know the odds are incredibly slim, but I refuse, simply refuse to accept the fact I cannot do it. Having a side job that is additional income, yeah that's ok, but not a job that makes more than my art does.

I personally do see it as a shame. If I one day have to admit art will never be the main source of income I have then I failed. I wasn't good enough, or fast enough in producing, I just wasn't enough and I already lost one career. I was supposed to be in Radiology or Zoology, but after TB issues, I can no longer work in the fields I prepared my life for.

So for me, the stakes are higher, I already lost my top choices in life due to something beyond my control. I had to start my career over before it even started and I was 18. I am NOT going through that loss again. Possibly that is what makes me want to work this hard. And while I have a third backup plan, I can't do it with the debt I have. I'm not going to have another career ripped from my arms.
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