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Stamp. On FCs because I could. by Aetherya Stamp. On FCs because I could. by Aetherya
dA stamps are not exactly makers of my day. Let me contribute some to that. :P

Note: I am NOT saying "fan characters are bad" here. I myself have some. I am NOT saying "creation of fanworks is bad." I myself draw fanarts and conceive fanfics. I DO consider fanworks to be a lesser creation than original-concept works, however.

This is a prime example how language can mislead. Copyrighted characters AND fan characters created by fans into the copyrighted contents BOTH HAPPEN to be commonly called "original characters."

That apparently gives off the illusion to some that they somehow belong to the same dimension of "originality."

Your fan character only exists because someone else had created a fictional contents that you have become a fan of. Technically, fan characters are not entirely OCs.

I have been using the term "OC" for fan characters for it being the more widely used term, and also the term I learned first. But I am in the process of switching to calling them exclusively "FC." I can be fastidious. I like to be accurate.

Look. You call fanarts fan-arts, not original arts. You call fanfictions fan-fictions. Not original fictions. Fan characters are called original characters just because we started calling them so, but they are fan characters all the same.

Still, this extends to not only fan characters, but fanarts and fanfictions, too.

It is called "secondary creation," people. All fan-works are considered that. (It manages to sound somehow more legal, too.)



This is not an issue I feel is particularly important, FYI. Right now I think serious issues deserve more than a dA stamp, really.

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Cosnix Featured By Owner Mar 7, 2016  Hobbyist Filmographer
Although I understand that there is a difference, I just tend to use OC unless FC feels proper. I do think all characters on the matter, are original characters, since many of them contain original characteristics, histories, and attributes. And even I have seen plenty of "OCs" that should be better off named Unorginal Characters.

Just because it's from a fandom doesn't make it not original, so OC is just going to be more commonly used than FC. Of course, I don't give the illusion that my OCs are FCs or likewise.

I just don't stress myself with it. Considering that some of my characters have a tendency to "travel universes" by me just redesigning them into different storylines, it actually becomes difficult to name them as a specific character. At that point, they have to be broken down into what's an FC and what's not. 

I do, entirely believe that there should be some sort of differentiation. However, when people write off ALL fancharacters because some can be unoriginal entirely just seems unfair, you know?


For me at least, I just tag OC and FC on all my characters, or just use OC/FC when describing them. Just in case, and to avoid confusion.
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Aetherya Featured By Owner Mar 7, 2016  Hobbyist Digital Artist
It seems like you are trying to differentiate between characters who are "original" as in "creative" versus not-so-creatively made characters, while what I am describing here has more to do with whether the universe is entirely your creation or not. I am in no way saying that fan characters cannot be "creative" so that is not a part of my point. And there is always that gray area that every inspiration is ultimately derived, but here, my point is that the real difference between "OC" and "FC" here is whether their inspiration comes from a fandom or not. (And there are characters who start out as one but end up as the other, etc.)

If you think I have misunderstood you, feel free to point out.
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Cosnix Featured By Owner Mar 15, 2016  Hobbyist Filmographer
Ooooohhhh. I think I am the one who have misunderstood you. : ) Your point is very correct and understandable. I'm sorry for the confusion. ;0;
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Aetherya Featured By Owner Mar 15, 2016  Hobbyist Digital Artist
It's fine, I may have been less clear on the description so don't sweat it :'D
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Loaym Featured By Owner Jun 17, 2012  Student General Artist
I don't think I've really used the term OC myself. Don't really know why. Might just be because I tend to not like acronyms. Or because I tended to associate it with the hilariously bad base art characters that are all over dA. Not sure. I've always just said "characters". Maybe occasionally "fan-characters".

But I do still think that fan characters can be considered original depending on how you look at it, and I don't think that simply using the term has ever bothered me. This is probably the opinion on the matter I agree with most: [link]
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Aetherya Featured By Owner Jun 17, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I forgot to add: I was pretty much aiming this at the people who try to ride off of the term "OC" by putting their fan characters under the same dimension as what's called "canon characters," claiming there is no difference, or otherwise trying to "justify" their use of fan characters. Whatever they are trying to justify it from, that is. If their fan character is well-made then there is no need for such thing, methinks.

You can say I made this in a flash of annoyance, basically. xD
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Aetherya Featured By Owner Jun 17, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
While I agree that there are gray areas, I think that comment is also somewhat confusing the nuance between "original" and "originality". Maybe I'm nit-picking. But I see the difference that exists between "self-created" and "creative."

(And I see that the gray area broadens when you consider that nothing is 100% original.)
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Loaym Featured By Owner Jun 17, 2012  Student General Artist
Well I guess that's kind of what I was getting at. While you could say that a character made in an existing universe isn't self-created, you could also argue that making a character in our own universe wasn't original because they didn't make up humans, or our world's history or social structure. The only difference between that and a fan-character is that our world isn't copyrighted.

Same thing if you use a more cliched fantasy universe and nothing is really original other than the characters, really. There's too much grey to fully distinguish between them for me.

I'm not really sure what you mean by justifying though...? Do you mean when people make a character that's supposedly a canon character's long-lost sibling/childhood friend and lover or something and actually try to justify it being canon? Because I agree that that is outright stupid xD
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Aetherya Featured By Owner Jun 17, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Last paragraph: Well, I can't read inside heads, but that's what it looks like they're doing to me. xD

Some people just make it sound as if they are trying to say "u bash mai (preshus) character and I KNOW it's b/c she's OC wull guess wat ALL CHARACTERS ARE OCS!!!1!"

While I do think that indiscriminate "fan character" bashing isn't right, people who receive character bashing are most of the time those who do things like you just described.
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Loaym Featured By Owner Jun 17, 2012  Student General Artist
Ah, I see what you mean now. People really use lines like that as an excuse? Geez.
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Aetherya Featured By Owner Jun 19, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I know :iconfacepalmplz:
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blu-hell-smith Featured By Owner Oct 26, 2011
I still don't get it. are you talking about altered canon characters or characters that are created to be inserted into a precreated universe? because even if the universe isn't original the character you place in it can be. thus although the universe you use is not original the character is in fact an original hence an OC made for use in fanfiction or fanart
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Aetherya Featured By Owner Oct 27, 2011  Hobbyist Digital Artist
When a character is inserted into a pre-created universe, his or her prospects are limited to that particular universe's. Because we gotta see the character as the product of whatever the universe he or she is in... If we are planning to make him/her believable anyway.

I believe creating a universe for a character is a HUGE part of creating that character. If I were making an original-concept work, I would define the universe first before attempting to create a character.

And yes, you can take a concept in a pre-created universe and develop it in your own way, and it will be a very original fanwork. :) But constructing a story of your entire own is something else. (Even though references to other pre-existing works are almost inevitable even in an original-concept work, I think you'll agree that using references is not the same as writing a fanfiction.)
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blu-hell-smith Featured By Owner Oct 28, 2011
Well, considering I tend to rape the universe canon(s) in some way almost EVERY TIME I write fanfiction... I'm not sure where most of my characters stand.
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Aetherya Featured By Owner Oct 28, 2011  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Tucking fypo. First sentence should say: "I DON'T think the character's otherwise quality depends on this." xP
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blu-hell-smith Featured By Owner Oct 29, 2011
YAY TYPOS
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Aetherya Featured By Owner Oct 29, 2011  Hobbyist Digital Artist
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Aetherya Featured By Owner Oct 28, 2011  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Plus, I think the character's otherwise quality as a character depends on this. It might sound like I'm contradicting myself, but a fan character can be a better "quality" character than a canon character. But it will still be categorized as a well-made FAN character. I like Kaine Stern better as a character than Ash Ketchum, for example. In this stamp I'm speaking more to the creative process itself. It's more to do with that basically it takes more work to come up with an original concept than a fan concept.
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blu-hell-smith Featured By Owner Oct 29, 2011
I'd certainly hoe that Kaine beats out Asssh as a character.
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Aetherya Featured By Owner Oct 29, 2011  Hobbyist Digital Artist
That was an extreme comparison. ;)
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blu-hell-smith Featured By Owner Oct 29, 2011
hope, not hoe.... XD and it was.
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Aetherya Featured By Owner Oct 28, 2011  Hobbyist Digital Artist
There are certainly varying degrees, and solid lines are almost nowhere. :nod:
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blu-hell-smith Featured By Owner Oct 29, 2011
IF you can't give a point where the OC and FC line can be drawn, why draw the line at all...

or is it like pornography, which a judge describbed in this manner: "I don't know how to define pornography, but i know itwhen i see it."?
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Aetherya Featured By Owner Oct 29, 2011  Hobbyist Digital Artist
That's life...
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blu-hell-smith Featured By Owner Oct 29, 2011
which one? and i can draw the line between wet and dry nad hot and cold, thought he last one is diffferent for everybody.
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Aetherya Featured By Owner Oct 29, 2011  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I meant that some things just can't be defined so nicely.

If you see dry as absence of moisture, that may be easier to draw the line, but things are rarely ever completely devoid of moisture, so... :P

I know I can't draw the line between hot and cold. xD I'll do even worse trying to define it. I just know it when I see it. xDD
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fooboo24 Featured By Owner Oct 25, 2011  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I never really understood the difference between FC and OC until now, even though I knew what they were and that they were the same thing, technically. Now I know. :)
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xela1234 Featured By Owner Nov 22, 2011  Hobbyist Writer
I somewhat did. :P
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Kellyn87 Featured By Owner Oct 25, 2011
i agree as well
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minkybean Featured By Owner Oct 25, 2011
I kind of now put fc(s) for any created characters, but sadly still use oc to make sense to people....
well at least I separate them...
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Aetherya Featured By Owner Oct 27, 2011  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Well, exactly. x_X Since that's the term so commonly used... xP
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PokemonRangerRiley Featured By Owner Oct 25, 2011  Hobbyist Writer
I agree. I think I should start saying FC as well, and yes, they are not the same.
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vera-san Featured By Owner Oct 25, 2011
Ahh completely right. OCs and FCs are not the same at all. I need to start using the term FC as well.
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