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Fandom woes. We all have them. And that's okay. by Aetherya Fandom woes. We all have them. And that's okay. by Aetherya
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“If you leave a fandom because of other fans, you must have been not much of a fan to begin with. If you are in love with your series enough you can overcome any fandom problems.”

…Yeah… Idk, man. Frankly I think that’s pretty BS.

Idk if most fans are too antisocial to understand this (…), but being a fan is VERY much a social activity. You cannot be much of a fan all by yourself. And I know what this is like, because I happen to be a fan of an exceptionally unpopular series. THERE IS NOT A THING TO DO except shout out to the oblivion how much you adore this series and its characters, and nobody is there to listen. If not for the handful of other fans I have with me in my tiny fandom, I don’t think I would have made it no matter how much I loved my series. You can’t really interact with your series the way you interact with your fandom. Being a fan involves sharing your fanworks, appreciating others’ fanworks, sharing thoughts and theories, agreeing, disagreeing, and even occasional bartering or monetary transactions. Fandom is a society. Neither your series nor your love for it is the only thing you ever need in order to be a fan. You need other fans too.

And mingling with other people sometimes brings unfortunate things.

You know people sometimes leave groups because they are so disillusioned with it. The importance of the group and the level of difficulty in leaving it varies, but people leave their country because they feel like it’s failed them. Fandoms are groups. Groups have people coming in and out. And MOST of the time, it is the members of the groups that draw people in or out of it.

p.s.: I think when someone leaves a fandom, the party that feels the most hurt is the person who leaves. All the rest still have the thing they love and the other people who love the same thing, like them or hate them, but leaving a fandom is basically falling out of love with your series, and ousting yourself from the community you used to be a part of. Neither of them is exactly an easy process.

You can disagree with the specific reason why they left, but whatever that was, that must have been a big deal for them. Even though it may not seem like a big deal for you. They could be leaving for the pettiest of issues, but that’s subsidiary. “Leaving fandom because of its fans” itself is still a very darn legitimate reason.

My point:

1) Fandom is a social activity.

2) Leaving a fandom because of other fans is a very legitimate course of action, even though you may disagree with the specific details of it.

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Altean-Prince Featured By Owner Jan 3, 2017
Aka the extremely elitist side of the fire emblem fandom.
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Kellyn-1987 Featured By Owner Oct 23, 2016  Hobbyist General Artist
I did that with a video game franchise once and lord only knows if i will return to the fandom.
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vera-san Featured By Owner Sep 4, 2016
I used to think that being a fan of something and being part of its 'fandom' was the same thing, but that when I was newer to fandoms. Now I realize that there's actually a pretty big distinction :P Sadly this stamp is basically how I feel about Undertale. Great game, but the fan stuff got way weird way fast and I just don't want to associate with it anymore. Dx
thankfully I still love the pokemon/ranger/mystery dungeon fandoms ;u;
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Aetherya Featured By Owner Sep 4, 2016  Hobbyist Digital Artist
D:
...At least you're still into Pokemon with us. ;u;
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vera-san Featured By Owner Sep 4, 2016
Oh definitely!! And I'm still into all kinds of other fandoms, like Steven Universe and various anime and etc. xD Undertale sort of became 'the new Homestuck' though so :P
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Aetherya Featured By Owner Sep 4, 2016  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Aw ;3; That's shame to hear ._.
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hunterN05 Featured By Owner Sep 1, 2016  Hobbyist General Artist
I haven't really left any fandom. I'm still an avid Pokemon fan, even though I barely draw anything for it, and the last Pokemon fanfiction I wrote was like... two years ago. In all fairness though, I stopped writing all of that because I lost all of my works on my laptop and ever backed them up... so... I just moved onto other shit. The Brony Fandom is alright, it has a few douchebags in it but its been alright for the most part.

And I see you and SOTF talking about YuGiOh... ahhh, that fandom is awesome, and Dark Magician and Dark Magician Girl are epic.
Blue Eyes White Dragon ftw :dummy: kick both ya butts!

Anywho, uh... potatoes... I don't know.
Nice stamp :D
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Aetherya Featured By Owner Sep 1, 2016  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Well, BEWD. Kisara is epic. And DM and DMG of course. :D

I keep hearing how good the YGO fandom is from both of you, and it makes me wonder now HOW good it is P:
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hunterN05 Featured By Owner Sep 2, 2016  Hobbyist General Artist
BLUE EYES WHITE DRAGON! :dummy: Whoo! Indeedy so~

Mmm... I haven't really been keeping up with it tbh, I'm stuck in the older decks and such, the time of Yugi and the old fashioned cards even though I have some newer cards. Yugioh is awesome, always has been, been with it for as long as I've been with Pokemon :dummy: I still have my first card!
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SOTF Featured By Owner Sep 1, 2016  Hobbyist Writer
It's not perfect, but it's a breath of fresh air in contrast to the Pokemon one. Maybe it's because YuGiOh was originally meant for teenagers and young adults.
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Sorakh28 Featured By Owner Aug 31, 2016
...Pretty much why I left the Ike/Pit shipping fandom.
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Aetherya Featured By Owner Aug 31, 2016  Hobbyist Digital Artist
:(

There's a fandom I will not name for me, although I more or less am indifferent about it now...
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SOTF Featured By Owner Aug 31, 2016  Hobbyist Writer
This sums up exactly why I left the Pokemon fandom. It's fucking unbearable on both ends of the spectrum (the creators have no respect for the series as far as the anime goes, and the fandom is just horrid - especially when there are 'fans' of a certain 10 year old whose name that I will not mention). When both sides of the equation are equally crap, it's time to retreat.

I decided to trudge back to the YuGiOh fandom ever since losing sync with it back in high school. Don't regret it in the least, especially when you know two close guys who are also big fans of the franchise. Maybe throwing about 300 dollars in total for two Dark Magician Girl statues you can't get normally outside of Japan and rewatching both the old anime and YGO Abridged had something to do with it.

PS: I heard you were a fan of Dark Magician. I did NOT know that until recently after reading one of your blogs. =P
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Aetherya Featured By Owner Aug 31, 2016  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Well, glad to hear that YGO fandom is treating you well. ;) YGO was my "Fandom 101" class: I learned all my basics from it, good and bad. xDD Combine that with Dark Magician being the first character I was a legitimate fan of, it was an interesting time that I do not regret. I'm just glad I wasn't creating or interacting a lot with other fans back then... THEN I was bound to regret something. xD Even though I would've been much better at art by now too, so there was a tradeoff :B

And about Dark Magician... I was very serious about him. If there were regrets, they would have been something related to him. =P
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SOTF Featured By Owner Aug 31, 2016  Hobbyist Writer
I was drawn back into it after learning they released some cards that were shown in the anime, but didn't see actual print until 10 years later. The original prints (released in 2014) demand outrageous prices; for one thing, Dark Magician Girl the Dragon Knight is going for at least 40 dollars, and the card required to get her into the battlefield costs 60. It's a damn good thing they reprinted her at a much cheaper price and better availability (bought her without any second doubts).

Well, knowing two guys who are rather into the TCG (at least at the classic level, none of the new XYZ and Pendulum stuff) and another one who is just as much as a DMG fan as myself means it was easier for me to get back into it. That and we all make fun of Pokemon for not growing up with the rest of us - the franchise is like that one annoyinh kid that has not matured at all even though they're supposed to be working and making a living like the rest of us.

For us guys, it was Dark Magician Girl. People were CRAZY about her when she debuted - but from my own perspective, it was all the...right reasons, if that's a better way of putting it correctly.

As for Pokemon...I retained my connection with it for a good five years. It was the abysmal quality of the fandom, the repetitiveness of the canon content in general, and lack of innovation that made me leave - but lacking good collectibles (at least that actually have rising value) probably had something to do with it also.
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Aetherya Featured By Owner Aug 31, 2016  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I say regret, but then again, there are people who aren't so shy about their immaturity of the past. Not that I'm one of them. *shrug*

I say all was pointing to DMG's fanon popularity: the general lack of girls in the Duel Monsters series to root for (in fandom eyes), her being a monster giving her more leeway to moe/sex appeal, her incarnation self, all. People call her the "real heroine of the DM series" to this day =P (And to be honest, I'm not complaining either)

(I almost couldn't believe that the Memory World arc was intended all along and not made up along the way to address the fandom satisfaction.)
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SOTF Featured By Owner Sep 1, 2016  Hobbyist Writer
Well the people I'm very close friends with are generally very open about what they like (and one of them is into the weirder stuff lol), and they certainly didn't drop a bucket of dogshit on me for owning DMG figures (for acquaintances? Hell no, they'll laugh at you until the ends of time. You can't even trust those people as far as you can throw them). That was what ultimately made go like 'You know what, I have a nice job that pays well and my close friends can enjoy their money however they want, so **** what others think about my personal interests.'

Yes, the biggest likely cause for DMG's popularity was the lack of a strong female lead. I mean, they made her an actual character that talks in the Legendary Dragons arc, and they introduced her human counterpart in the final season (Mana). Seeing how they already did it with Dark Magician, it was guaranteed to happen. And it's also arguable that the student's popularity has surpassed the master himself - as far as I know!

Other female monsters based on DMG (Magician's Valkyria, Magi Magi Magician Gal, Gagaga Girl, DMG the Dragon Knight) have all tried to gain the same level of popularity but never really made the cut. Over 10 years after her debut and she still retains the title as queen of the hottest duel monster out there. =P

Memory World was the finale that wrapped up the original story in the manga, so it wasn't like it was originally intended to satisfy the fandom like you pointed out. I believe Legendary Dragons was the one made for fandom satisfaction as it's considered to be filler.
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Aetherya Featured By Owner Sep 1, 2016  Hobbyist Digital Artist
What's wrong with figures? xD Besides the fact they have a tendency to multiply from what I hear, so figures just might eat you out.
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SOTF Featured By Owner Sep 1, 2016  Hobbyist Writer
You get people thinking that you're a pervert/creeper if you buy figures of female characters. I've literally heard from someone that whoever owns a DMG figure needs to be labeled as a registered sex offender even though he's a complete douchebag who wastes his life on call of duty, weed, and...other inappropriate activities that I would rather not go into details about. And that guy went to jail for more charges than I could count with one hand (don't ask me how I knew him rofl).

Then, the Kotobukiya DMG figure does look a bit...off. I mean, the box is just waaaay too girly with all the hearts, sparkles, and colors. I should post some pics sometime, but I don't really want to open the figures. They're just sitting beside my computer still in their original packaging. =P

I know people that spend a LOT more than me, but I try to keep my spendings within a limit. That and to compensate, I usually donate my older stuff that I don't need in order to free up space.
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Aetherya Featured By Owner Sep 1, 2016  Hobbyist Digital Artist
...That's certainly a charge that I am not so familiar with. I've heard that non-figure-collectors sometimes don't know how to be respectful to someone's figure collections (shit's expensive too), but I didn't know so many people think you're a creep for owning figures. Maybe I haven't spent enough time outside of meeting other fans. P: Or I just haven't met enough douchebags. Although women are also considerable buyers of female figures too.

And I don't know if they honestly thought that "girls" would be their primary consumers for DMG... xD I mean they know it's mostly adults who have the money to spend on such things. In other words the hearts and sparkles are probably mainly a reflection of her own image. xD
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SpamCrackers Featured By Owner Edited Aug 31, 2016  Hobbyist General Artist
It's true. I've been in and out of quite a few fandoms and for various reasons. Other fans and the communities in general have been a couple of those reasons. 

Oh and whoever thinks fandoms are not a social activity has clearly never been to a convention. XD
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Aetherya Featured By Owner Aug 31, 2016  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I don't think anyone would disagree that a fandom is a social activity if you were to tell them, haha. Maybe just haven't thought of it and its implications at most.
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