“If you leave a fandom because of other fans, you must have been not much of a fan to begin with. If you are in love with your series enough you can overcome any fandom problems.”
…Yeah… Idk, man. Frankly I think that’s pretty BS.
Idk if most fans are too antisocial to understand this (…), but being a fan is VERY much a social activity. You cannot be much of a fan all by yourself. And I know what this is like, because I happen to be a fan of an exceptionally unpopular series. THERE IS NOT A THING TO DO except shout out to the oblivion how much you adore this series and its characters, and nobody is there to listen. If not for the handful of other fans I have with me in my tiny fandom, I don’t think I would have made it no matter how much I loved my series. You can’t really interact with your series the way you interact with your fandom. Being a fan involves sharing your fanworks, appreciating others’ fanworks, sharing thoughts and theories, agreeing, disagreeing, and even occasional bartering or monetary transactions. Fandom is a society. Neither your series nor your love for it is the only thing you ever need in order to be a fan. You need other fans too.
And mingling with other people sometimes brings unfortunate things.
You know people sometimes leave groups because they are so disillusioned with it. The importance of the group and the level of difficulty in leaving it varies, but people leave their country because they feel like it’s failed them. Fandoms are groups. Groups have people coming in and out. And MOST of the time, it is the members of the groups that draw people in or out of it.
p.s.: I think when someone leaves a fandom, the party that feels the most hurt is the person who leaves. All the rest still have the thing they love and the other people who love the same thing, like them or hate them, but leaving a fandom is basically falling out of love with your series, and ousting yourself from the community you used to be a part of. Neither of them is exactly an easy process.
You can disagree with the specific reason why they left, but whatever that was, that must have been a big deal for them. Even though it may not seem like a big deal for you. They could be leaving for the pettiest of issues, but that’s subsidiary. “Leaving fandom because of its fans” itself is still a very darn legitimate reason.
1) Fandom is a social activity.
2) Leaving a fandom because of other fans is a very legitimate course of action, even though you may disagree with the specific details of it.
thankfully I still love the pokemon/ranger/mystery dungeon fandoms ;u;
...At least you're still into Pokemon with us. ;u;
And I see you and SOTF talking about YuGiOh... ahhh, that fandom is awesome, and Dark Magician and Dark Magician Girl are epic.
Blue Eyes White Dragon ftw kick both ya butts!
Anywho, uh... potatoes... I don't know.
I keep hearing how good the YGO fandom is from both of you, and it makes me wonder now HOW good it is P:
Mmm... I haven't really been keeping up with it tbh, I'm stuck in the older decks and such, the time of Yugi and the old fashioned cards even though I have some newer cards. Yugioh is awesome, always has been, been with it for as long as I've been with Pokemon I still have my first card!
There's a fandom I will not name for me, although I more or less am indifferent about it now...
I decided to trudge back to the YuGiOh fandom ever since losing sync with it back in high school. Don't regret it in the least, especially when you know two close guys who are also big fans of the franchise. Maybe throwing about 300 dollars in total for two Dark Magician Girl statues you can't get normally outside of Japan and rewatching both the old anime and YGO Abridged had something to do with it.
PS: I heard you were a fan of Dark Magician. I did NOT know that until recently after reading one of your blogs.
And about Dark Magician... I was very serious about him. If there were regrets, they would have been something related to him.
Well, knowing two guys who are rather into the TCG (at least at the classic level, none of the new XYZ and Pendulum stuff) and another one who is just as much as a DMG fan as myself means it was easier for me to get back into it. That and we all make fun of Pokemon for not growing up with the rest of us - the franchise is like that one annoyinh kid that has not matured at all even though they're supposed to be working and making a living like the rest of us.
For us guys, it was Dark Magician Girl. People were CRAZY about her when she debuted - but from my own perspective, it was all the...right reasons, if that's a better way of putting it correctly.
As for Pokemon...I retained my connection with it for a good five years. It was the abysmal quality of the fandom, the repetitiveness of the canon content in general, and lack of innovation that made me leave - but lacking good collectibles (at least that actually have rising value) probably had something to do with it also.
I say all was pointing to DMG's fanon popularity: the general lack of girls in the Duel Monsters series to root for (in fandom eyes), her being a monster giving her more leeway to moe/sex appeal, her incarnation self, all. People call her the "real heroine of the DM series" to this day (And to be honest, I'm not complaining either)
(I almost couldn't believe that the Memory World arc was intended all along and not made up along the way to address the fandom satisfaction.)
Yes, the biggest likely cause for DMG's popularity was the lack of a strong female lead. I mean, they made her an actual character that talks in the Legendary Dragons arc, and they introduced her human counterpart in the final season (Mana). Seeing how they already did it with Dark Magician, it was guaranteed to happen. And it's also arguable that the student's popularity has surpassed the master himself - as far as I know!
Other female monsters based on DMG (Magician's Valkyria, Magi Magi Magician Gal, Gagaga Girl, DMG the Dragon Knight) have all tried to gain the same level of popularity but never really made the cut. Over 10 years after her debut and she still retains the title as queen of the hottest duel monster out there.
Memory World was the finale that wrapped up the original story in the manga, so it wasn't like it was originally intended to satisfy the fandom like you pointed out. I believe Legendary Dragons was the one made for fandom satisfaction as it's considered to be filler.
Then, the Kotobukiya DMG figure does look a bit...off. I mean, the box is just waaaay too girly with all the hearts, sparkles, and colors. I should post some pics sometime, but I don't really want to open the figures. They're just sitting beside my computer still in their original packaging.
I know people that spend a LOT more than me, but I try to keep my spendings within a limit. That and to compensate, I usually donate my older stuff that I don't need in order to free up space.
And I don't know if they honestly thought that "girls" would be their primary consumers for DMG... xD I mean they know it's mostly adults who have the money to spend on such things. In other words the hearts and sparkles are probably mainly a reflection of her own image. xD
Oh and whoever thinks fandoms are not a social activity has clearly never been to a convention. XD