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ReaderSystem Featured By Owner Mar 3, 2017  Hobbyist General Artist
I've come across others who say things like "that type of abuse only happens in books and movies" (ex: Carrie, Decay, Sybil) But it happens every day... religious abuse is JUST as traumatizing as any other type of abuse...

Growing up my dad was emotionally abusive (he wasn't the religious abuser), with very rare examples of physical abuse... I've been sexually assaulted... and I dated someone who was religiously abusive, who I was with for 3 months before finding the courage to say to myself "I don't deserve to be treated like this" and end it... out of all the abusers I've had in my life the religious abuser was the one that causes me the most amount of pain SEVEN YEARS LATER.
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hermafrodite Featured By Owner Nov 13, 2014  Hobbyist Photographer
me being satanic in a catholic town gets me a lot of religious abuse like i'm some kinda german jew in a ghetto or something they ignore that i'm still a human
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GengarPunk95 Featured By Owner Jul 13, 2015  Hobbyist Artist
ugh I know that pain..

Since I left christianity I got threatned to get back
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vbug Featured By Owner Jul 3, 2014  Student Artist
thank you so much for this stamp. when i was younger, i was visiting a relative for a while and it was just me and my dad and she said something religious and me being like, 5-6 i wasnt thinking and said i didn't believe in god. she beat me and bruised me and locked me in a room and slapped me across the face just to make me to go to church and my father (who is in jail now for abuse aswell) just watched and didn't care. :\ i know this is a personal thing but i need to vent about it and just the fact that people think that religious abuse doesn't exist bothers me sooo much 
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GamziMakr Featured By Owner Jul 28, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Who thinks there's isn't religious abuse? :confused: 
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Corvus-the-Snark Featured By Owner Apr 27, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Pretty much everyone who believes religion is a disease and/or needs to be destroyed
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FelisLupus Featured By Owner May 18, 2016  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Or those people who preach it.
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GamziMakr Featured By Owner Apr 27, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Those people have got some thinking to do. 
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Corvus-the-Snark Featured By Owner Apr 27, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Indeed
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Deidara-TheTerrorist Featured By Owner Jun 21, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
I hate people who end up making Christians and other religions look terrible. I'm christian and I have gay friends whose company I enjoy. I have Mormon friends too (even though sometimes they get on my nerves...). I have shinto friends. do I ask them to convert? No. But I'll answer their questions.

Same with Muslims/Islams/Hindus. Stupid terrorists gave them a reputation too. Now if a Muslim walks through Texas people call the cops and check them for bombs. It sucks.
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GamziMakr Featured By Owner Jul 28, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
How do Mormons get on your nerves, if you don't mind telling? :) I'm just curious. 
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Deidara-TheTerrorist Featured By Owner Aug 26, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Not Mormons in general just specifically the ones that are my friends. They're.... Ridiculously far to the right and think I'm wrong about religion and tell me that. Every week.
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GamziMakr Featured By Owner Aug 26, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Well, that's not very nice. Even though there's a stereotype for Mormons being really nice, there are some of them that aren't. They're imperfect people just like the rest of us. Personally, I enjoy having an intelligent discussion about politics and religion with people I disagree with, but incessantly saying "you're wrong you big dummy" to someone isn't very civil. I'm sorry the only Mormons you know are people like that. 

There are left-wing Mormons. I knew a missionary who leaned Left, and he was so awesome. I know another Leftist Mormon, and while we often disagree, we respect each other. It's all about that respect. 
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Deidara-TheTerrorist Featured By Owner Sep 2, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
And I totally get that, and I can have civilized political talks with them and they can be fun- but it is now a rule of our friendship to NEVER mention the 2012 election in America, OR the polygamy.
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GamziMakr Featured By Owner Sep 2, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Well, if you've both consented to that in the interest of avoiding an argument, then that's okay. I, too, can get very heated when talking about the election (don't get me started, for the love of everything decent in humanity). I don't, however, have any problem discussing polygamy. So if you want to talk about it w/o arguing, you can talk to me. :3
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Deidara-TheTerrorist Featured By Owner Sep 3, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Thanks, but I usually avoid political debates because I'm highly competitive and someone who will not budge on their argument in the slightest, even if I prove it wrong, frustrates me. I'm sure you wouldn't, but  I've just never had a good experience with that.

Anyway. I don't talk about the Polygamy with them because of that show "Sister Wives", which is about a man and his 4(?) wives who live in Las Vegas (which is where I lived for a while before I left America). People think that ALL mormons believe in the polygamy,  which irritates them all because they don't see multiple wives as a good thing.

But yeah :/
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Colliequest Featured By Owner May 16, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Okay, I watched most of the video in the link, and skimmed over the rest...


Emotional abuse in connection with religious beliefs certainly exists, but....well, those same basic explanations were given to me as a kid, and IMO that is pretty far from emotional abuse. I mean, unless the focus is in the wrong areas, and that all you're taught about is sin and how sinful you are--I mean, that's only half of the gospel. After all, God considers us all valuable enough to die for.
But the concept of us having a sin nature, and sin separating us from God (that leading to Jesus' death on the cross and resurrection), is simply a simplified way to explain the plan of salvation.

Now, I'm not familiar with that particular curriculum, and it does sound like they may possibly focus way too much on one point, completely missing the entire picture. Some of their lesson applications do sound kinda...extreme.
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SilentRosySunrise Featured By Owner May 6, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
And it stinks.
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Riza-Izumi Featured By Owner Mar 4, 2013
I was religious abused by my family.
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8manderz8 Featured By Owner Mar 6, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
I'm sorry to hear that :( :huggle:
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xXDeadlyNightshadeXx Featured By Owner Mar 2, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
I totally agree, and while there are good religious people out there, it's frightening to know that there are people that would take their religion to a whole different degree. The first thing to come to mind is Jesus Camp, it's just disgusting...
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The-Forgotten-Writer Featured By Owner Mar 1, 2013
This stamp's existence disturbs me.

Not because I disagree with it, but because it implies that some people actually believe otherwise, which gives me the creeps.
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EbolaSparkleBear Featured By Owner Mar 5, 2013
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Vyanni-Krace-ACE Featured By Owner Mar 2, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Same here.
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Libberachi Featured By Owner Mar 1, 2013   Digital Artist
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lalala978 Featured By Owner Mar 1, 2013
Churches taking advantage of their flock is like parents taking advantage of their children. Except adults should know better, so they don't get much sympathy.
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Libberachi Featured By Owner Mar 1, 2013   Digital Artist
Yeeeeep. So very sad, but all too true. Of course there are plenty of perfectly nice religious people, but by its very nature, religion basically requires a very screwy mindset to begin with. :/ I also have to say, and I've said this many times before: Not raising me to be religious is one of the few things my parents did right. I can't even begin to imagine how screwed up I'd be if religion was thrown into our unfortunately psychotic mix... >.>;;

(And before someone tries to come up and "correct" me about what I've just said, I am not interested in arguing with you about it. I'm not trying to be rude, but if you feel the need to defend your position so badly, I first suggest you think very, very hard about why it is you believe what you do in the first place...)
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LucyFaerie Featured By Owner Mar 2, 2013
As a parent of multiple children, I would like to say congrats to you on your parents not raising you to be religious.

My husband and I had the sense to recognize that we did not want to raise our children with the mentality that we had every right to choose their religion, their spouse, or their vocation. This was mainly because my husband and I are both former preacher's children, so we did not want to do with our children what was done to us.

Can I just say that while our children are not perfect, they have grown up to be decent and responsible people? We did something right.

What annoys me are the many idiots out there who believe that religious beliefs equate morality. That is absolute bull.

So glad you shared your art, thank you.
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EternalGeekExposed Featured By Owner Mar 1, 2013
If you haven't seen it, you should look at "To Train Up a Child". [link] This is a book that has been used in thousands of homes to "train" (by which I mean condition) children not to misbehave through physical discipline, starting at the age of 6 months. The ideal child, according to this book, is one that instinctively represses natural personality and curiosity because of a conditioned fear response. And this is excused as "Biblical." Pretty terrifying shit.
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KrisTheTrashLord Featured By Owner Mar 18, 2013  Student General Artist
Old comment is old but many children died from that book.

Scary IMHO :O
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EternalGeekExposed Featured By Owner Mar 20, 2013
Agreed. I can't say that many children have died from the book, but I don't think it helps.
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KrisTheTrashLord Featured By Owner Mar 20, 2013  Student General Artist
There are people who are telling Amazon to get the book out of the shelves.
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EternalGeekExposed Featured By Owner Mar 21, 2013
Yeah, I've heard. I think it's far too much an over-simplification to say that the book kills children, but it certainly encourages tendencies towards abuse. The authors still stand by it, but they should be ashamed of perpetuating ideas like this, knowing full-well how easily it could be taken out of hand.
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WhiteDraco71 Featured By Owner Mar 2, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I've heard of that book, and years ago I saw the type of 'discipline' that it promotes in action. A father beating his young toddler to the point that the child vomited in terror, only to be beaten more because his father insisted that his vomiting was 'an act of rebellion against authority.'

The worst part was that the father in this situation was a pastor's son and the pastor was right there encouraging it, claiming it was the biblical thing to do. Having read the bible, I know all too well that it is the biblical thing to do, which is one of the reasons I hate the bible so much.
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EternalGeekExposed Featured By Owner Mar 3, 2013
It depends on which part of the Bible you choose to follow. The different portions are not consistent in their way of thinking and treating others. For that reason, I don't hate the Bible, but I take it with a grain of salt. It's an ancient text complied of more ancient texts and shouldn't be held up as the pinnacle of morality because it's not.
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Vyanni-Krace-ACE Featured By Owner Mar 2, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Holy Heck. O_o
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Vyanni-Krace-ACE Featured By Owner Mar 2, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
That is the one book I would happily burn.
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WhiteDraco71 Featured By Owner Mar 2, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
If you're gonna burn it, you might as well burn the bible it's based on too.
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Vyanni-Krace-ACE Featured By Owner Mar 2, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
I would but then I'd be on the run from militant Christians.
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WhiteDraco71 Featured By Owner Mar 2, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
You might be on the run from militant Christians if you burn the other book too, if you think about it. :P
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Vyanni-Krace-ACE Featured By Owner Mar 2, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
That may be so, but likely not as many. I doubt a 'child raising' book is as important to them as their precious bible is.
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WhiteDraco71 Featured By Owner Mar 2, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Well, if you think about it, though, we are talking about *militant* Christians here, not just your average run-of-the-mill type who actually uses their brain for its intended purpose instead of training themselves (and their kids) to shut it off and run on Bible-Pilot. Who's to say that they won't see the child-raising book as just as 'holy' as their bible? ;)
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LucyFaerie Featured By Owner Mar 2, 2013
"Like" comment about burning that book.
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Vyanni-Krace-ACE Featured By Owner Mar 2, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Why thank you. :)
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LucyFaerie Featured By Owner Mar 2, 2013
You're welcome.
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EternalGeekExposed Featured By Owner Mar 2, 2013
Haha yeah... I'm not usually into censorship, but this book is just irresponsible. Granted, the author says that you are never supposed to act in anger or "switch" your child hard enough to leave marks. But the sorts of people who would actually think that this sort of child-conditioning is a good idea, are disproportionately the sorts of people who feel they are justified in any dominating behavior against their child. In other words, they think often they own their children, and this book gives them a moral justification for child abuse.

The book started to get some heavy criticism because it was found in three different homes of 3 different children that were all killed by their parents by extreme discipline. The authors argued that it was just 3 homes with 500,000 copies of the books sold, but we're talking about child MURDER here. The cases of child abuse that this has spawned are probably much much much higher if we already have 3 murders. Did the book cause the parents to kill their children? No, probably not, but I bet it sure as hell justified their abuse in their own minds.

If you haven't yet, try giving some of the book a read. It's utterly chilling, despite the "loving" language it is trying to use.
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Vyanni-Krace-ACE Featured By Owner Mar 2, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
It also seemed to compare children to animals like Mules.
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EternalGeekExposed Featured By Owner Mar 2, 2013
Yes, pretty much. It says you have to break their wills in order to have obedient and healthy children, just like you have to break a horse or a mule. Disturbing shit.
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Greatkingrat88 Featured By Owner Mar 1, 2013
Catholic church much?
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8manderz8 Featured By Owner Mar 1, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Definitely them. I need to get together my updated definition sometime hopefully will have it soon, was going to include a few links to other religions as well
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