Common abrahamic excuses that hold little waterCommon abrahamic excuses that hold little water2 years ago in Philosophical
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"God gaves us free will, ergo it's pur own fault": Except that the Bible nor the Qu'ran put emphasis on free will. Hell, this excuse is so very recent, that, until a few centuries ago, the idea that God had absolute control over our lives was very popular.
"Its our fault; Adam and Eve's sin created evil, not God!": If you have read Genesis, you'll know this is bullshit (Hell, even Yahweh admits he created evil!). Likewise, at no point is the first sin ever considered a "Pandora's Box" situation.
"God is goodness incarnate! Evil is against his nature!":...have you even read the Bible? Yahweh is also considered to not be goodness incarnate until the NT and Qu'ran; in the OT, he is treated as a Lawful Neutral agent.
"Your're putting everything out of context!": Considering I actually bother to read the Bible/Qu'ran, while you only cherry pick passages your pastor dictates...
"He died for your sins! You should be grateful!":
1- His sacrifice was pointless, He only rescued saints from Sheol
Catholic church, you so wackyWacky in the sense of closeted bigotry, that is.Catholic church, you so wacky2 years ago in Personal
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So I watched an episode of the Australian TV Show Q&A yesterday on Youtube. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tD1QHO_AVZA It was Richard Dawkins discussing- what else?- religion with Cardinal Pell, a senior catholic leader in Australia. While Professor Dawkins was jetlagged, he did pretty okay.
The cardinal, though...
Let's just get to the juicy bits right away: Pell comments, when asked why god would reveal himself only to a small nation of illiterate shepherds, that "they were morally an intellectually inferior" to the Egypians and Babylonians, and that "...they still are."
Up until that moment, Pell had seemed halfway sympathetic: accepting of other viewpoints, insisting that atheists too can go to heaven (a direct contradiction of biblical dogma, but the catholics aren't really big on staying consistent). Liberal, accepting, though terribly ignorant.
But it gets better.
On the question of Jews, holocaust etc, Pell manages to say that ".