So You've Created a Mary SueSo Youve Created a Mary-Sue
One day while browsing on deviant Art or even Fanfiction.net you get a really great idea to create your own Original Character (OC). So cool, right? You make him/her for your favorite fandom so you can draw or write them it, its like youre in the series. You can make your favorite sexy anime guy or beautiful girl fall head over heels in love. You quickly write everything you would like if you were in that fandom and upload away. Thats when you get your first comment or review. As soon as you open it the room catches fire and you are incinerated within the depths of a Flame. A flame is a type of review or comment that is left usually to bash one writing or drawing and hold little to no constructive criticism to help with improvements. Thats when you realized you have been infected by the dread disease of creating a Mary-Sue. Whats the first thing you should do, throw it out right? wrong!
Just like learning to
How to evade making a Mary SueThe Mary Sue GuideHow to evade making a Mary Sue7 years ago in Academic Essays More Like This
This guide is meant to introduce and/or inform you of this threat that is currently attacking storywritting, drawing, Original Character creation (OCs) and fandom/fanfiction in general, not to say Originality itself!
During the course of this guide, you will learn what a Mary Sue is, youll identify one when sighted and, most importantly, you will not create one and hopefully you will help others in the subject, so they dont create Mary Sues too.
I) Mary Sue 101:
-What is a Mary Sue?
Mary Sue is a title given to characters in fanfiction (and sometimes original, professional work) who are simply perfect: They are beautiful, smart, friendly, always willing to help for nothing in exchange even if they can die, powerful, important in one way or other...you get the point (I will explain on emphasis later). These characters are often created in Roleplaying forums/chatrooms or simply as OCs with a storyline
Basic Facts About Mary-SueYou are in love with Riku. You are warm for his form. Unfortunately, you cannot have him. He doesn't exist, after all. So you do the next best thing. You create a fan fic centering around your own original character (OC) and Riku.Basic Facts About Mary-Sue8 years ago in Editorial More Like This
Riku falls in love with this character immediately. His dark personality turns on your OC like a light bulb. The two share passionate moments as he gushes his feelings for her on Twilight Hill (three hours after meeting her, of course), telling her how much he loves her layered purple hair, silver eyes, milky white skin, and thin, curvy body. He tells her how the name Ruby Mina Rose-Topaz fits her so well. The normally chaste Riku agrees to a one-nighter without hesitation.
As they lie in the spacious bed in her mansion, she begins to sob. Her eyes turn emerald as tears pour down her cheek. Immediately, Riku strokes her moonlit silver hair and coaxes her into telling him what is wrong. Tearfully, she sobs about how her parents were murdered. She was brought u
Murdering Mary SueMurdering Mary SueMurdering Mary Sue7 years ago in Academic Essays More Like This
Every aspiring writer has met her at least once, whether in his own works or in those of others. The alluring temptation of a perfect character taunts the author from one side while his muse urges him to keep writing from the other. Who wouldn't love her? She's the most beautiful, talented, fantastic woman in the universe, with not a flaw in sight. Every woman wants to be her; every man wants to marry her, so why would anyone want to kill her? Who would want to murder Mary Sue?
I would. I and many greater authors have been working hard to keep this succubus in her proper place: the trash can. Mary Sue is one of the worst enemies of good fiction, second only to poor spelling and grammar. And the seductress tempts even the most cautious writer. Her many disguises can make her difficult to spot, allowing her to weave her way into every plot twist and turn, slowly destroying the author's work. By the time shes found, she may have done so much damage that the
Rants: Mary-sues and how to make a decent OCRants: Mary-sues and how to make a decent OC3 years ago in General Fiction More Like This
Well, I figured that since Spongebob- Proof Of Spandy was so popular that I would do something that's different but also the same. I've written a little mini rant/opinions on an issue that isn't nearly as annoying as it used to be but it's still suck around for a quite a while everywhere I've been (Ex. DevArt, Fanfiction Net, LiveJournal). So, hope you can all enjoy and leave whatever comments you feel necessary. I would love to hear your opinions.
First I shall address Mary-Sues. Here's the five bad points of a Mary-Sue:
The name is only a slight problem. As in, it's not really one to be too concerned about but it is something that could give a good character a bad image. A name such as 'Melony Butterfly Lily DeeDee Silver Jay Hannah Rose, Melony Rose for short' is not going to give anyone a pretty image of your character and people will get tired just by trying to sa
MARY SUE COOKBOOK MARY SUE COOKBOOKMARY SUE COOKBOOK7 years ago in Academic Essays More Like This
Small word of introduction: This little essay is based on my own experiences with OCs, Mary Sues and widely known fictional characters. The opinions expressed here are mine alone and I understand not everyone might agree with them. But that doesnt mean Im going to change my opinion just because someone thinks different. Im not anyones trained circus monkey.
If you are reading this, you probably know what a Mary Sue is. Just check Wikipedia or Encyclopedia Dramatica for various definitions. I personally think the most simple and accurate definition can be A Mary Sue is an overrated fictional character, that only her/his creator loves. Sues can be found in three basic places: fanfiction, original fiction and roleplays. Mary Sues are mostly created by 12-15 year old girls with a strong sense of insecurity. And here begins my story
How to Avoid Creating a Mary Sue TutorialHiya!How to Avoid Creating a Mary Sue Tutorial5 years ago in Writing More Like This
While reading manymanymany fan fictions and original stories with varying levels, it popped into my mind a few tricks to decrease the Mary Sue aspects from characters. I've sorted the tricks to different categories, hope they are useful! The categories are,
- What is a Mary Sue anyway? And why people create them?
- Before creating him/her, aka General attitude
- When creating him/her
- When writing about him/her
- Notes about fan characters
- Notes about original characters
- Links to other Anti Mary Sue tutorials
Most the tricks I've mentioned in this guide are good to remember all the time. However, the tricks I've marked with a star symbol (*) are optional, kind of extra tricks. I use quite harsh examples in the guide to make stuff clear, but remember that the flaws that are smaller than the ones that I mentioned can be bad, too!
On the other hand: Generally, NONE of mentioned flaws are ABSOLUTELY bad, so you don't necessarily have to throw your character into recycling bin or
Mary SueThere was once a girl named Mary Sue. She lived in the wonderful world of Fanfiction. Everywhere she went, no matter what the series, she was different, yet always the same. Sometimes she revisited these series, making every boy fall for her once again. The thing each of Mary Sue's forms had in common; they were all extremely cliche, they all were irresistible, they all were perfect in every way possible. But in the world of Fanfiction, Mary Sue often only visited people if she was told by the Mighty Authors, who would create another form for her.Mary Sue9 years ago in Humor More Like This
One day, Mary Sue was in her pretty pink mansion, sipping the finest tea in the most expensive possible cup. She was in her usual form. A girl in a blinding pink dress, with extremely sparkling, perfect, blonde hair, and beautiful blue eyes. She looked extremely beautiful, as all of her forms were meant to be. And from the Mighty Authors themselves came a letter from Above. She ripped it open excitedly, not getting a new job for quite awhile.
How Not To Get A Mary SueX-x-X-x-X-x-X How to Create A Well balanced Female Lead X-x-X-x-X-x-XHow Not To Get A Mary Sue4 years ago in Profiles More Like This
For most people, the problems that people will have with a character is the lack of balance they might have.
Mary-Sues are the most popular characters that exemplify this.
Mary Sues are characters that have more good traits than flaws and therefore look perfect for the audience. That can include all sorta of aspects in the character 'life'.
1) You have over-powered Mary-sues who can defeat any and every opponent and therefore are respected and awed by everyone.
2) Realtionship-Sues who are so much of the woman that every man who meets her is obviously struck with love the minute they see her, even when the character has no real qualities that WOULD normally attract men. And these are also the ones who are able to take their pick of the guy and somehow always end up getting with the most sought-after man in the series.
3) You have the feminist-sues/tom-boy sues who are the perfect women in their being less "girly" on
Mary-Sues: Part 1Mary-Sues: Things You Need to Know and What to do if you see ThemMary-Sues: Part 14 years ago in Reviews & Guides More Like This
Mary-sues, Martha-sues, Marty-stus, Larry-Stus and Gary-Stus, we will all come across them at one point. Most of us have heard of them, some have been violently accused of making them via flaming, and others are still naïve to the terms. While people who have been on writing sites for years absolutely loathe them, most are inconsistent with an all-around definition. A majority claim that Mary-Sues are characters that are absolutely perfect in every shape, form and personality, while others just say that they are characters that are just too powerful, unique, or are so clichéd from past characters, and a few say they are self-inserts no matter how well-developed they are. Some on fan fiction sites even say that all Original Characters or Fan Characters (OCs) who are paired with a canon character or just take the spotlight are Mary-Sues. On the other side of the cr
A guide to Mary SuesA guide to Mary Sues8 years ago in Humor More Like This
PART ONE: BUILDING YOUR AWESOME OC</b>
The first step in creating your fan-fiction is coming up with the protagonist to be the central character and absolute medium in your story of your chosen movie, anime, book series, TV show, game, etc. Professional Mary Sue writers, who have studied the art of self-insertion fiction with precision, have carefully assembled the following guidelines, so dont worry you are in good hands. .
The picture at the top of the page will be utilized as
A Guide to Mary-Sues and OCs A Guide to Recognizing Mary-Sue/ Gary-Stu ClichésA Guide to Mary-Sues and OCs8 years ago in Fan Fiction More Like This
Disclamier: This text was based on Mary-Sue Litmus Test . All questions are gleaned from it and what I consider makes a Mary-sue. Im not attacking anybody with this test. Its simply an experiment that Im doing. Even my own characters are going to be put to this test.
This is simply a listing of clichés that are more often used to describe MSs and GSs. By no means should you use this guide to determine if your character is a MS or GS. This guide is meant to help authors to recognize stale, clichéd characters and stories, so that they can turn them into well-rounded characters and stories.
Of course having some of these traits does not make your character an MS/GS. Many fanfics that Ive read have had characters with many of the characteristics listed, but were well written and enjoyable to read a
Bleach Mary Sue Litmus TestNOTE! The following contains a large amount of sarcasm. Proceed at your own risk.Bleach Mary Sue Litmus Test7 years ago in Fan Fiction More Like This
*Chapter I: What's in a Name?*
1. Is your character named after you? (This includes nicknames and online handles) (+5)
2. Is their name unusual compared to the other characters in the series? (Keep in mind that the setting is in Japan, so they should have a Japanese name) (Unless, of course, they are an Arrancar, in which case they're name should probably be Spanish) (+1)
a. Is it American? (+1)
b. Is it something you made up? (+1)
c. Is it a noun that is not normally used as a name? (+1)
d. Is it a variation or unusual spelling of a normal name? (+1)
3. Does your character have multiple names? (Example: Mary Sparklepuff Krystal Pastrami Sue) (+1 for each name)
4. Is your character's name otherwise specific to a particular fandom? (Such as Naruto or Ryuk.) (+1) (+1 more if it's from Kingdom Hearts or Final Fantasy, or the name of a canon Bleach character.)
5. Does their name describe the chara
mary-sue testthis test was made for people who write fanfictions featuring their OC`s [original characters] wishing to avoid creating mary-sues. You can test as many characters as you want :] remember: no offensemary-sue test7 years ago in General Non-Fiction More Like This
UPDATE `11 30 07
If your character belongs to a race that has wings, unusual eye colour, etc. And most other characters in the story have those traits, don`t add extra points.
P.S - This test is intended for human female characters. If your character is male, go look for a gary-stu test.
1. Does your character have a long, rare or unusual name? [if she lives in japan, japanese name is not unusual] +1
2. Does your character have more than one first/second name for no reason? +1
3. [count all that apply]
She`s not a human? +1
Half a human? +1
[half]An Angel? +1
[half]A Vampire? +1
[half]A Werewolf? +1
4. She belongs to a royal family? +1
5. Does she have amnesia? +1
It heals as the story goes on? +1
___ out of 10
OC Mary-Sue Test 2.1OC Mary-Sue/Gary-Stu TestOC Mary-Sue Test 2.14 years ago in Writing More Like This
This test is designed for Original Characters. Questions for Role Play Characters and Fan Characters will be added soon.
Now, this tests for both the traditional Mary Sue/Gary Stu, and for 'gloomdog' style characters, which I suppose is a sub-category of the Mary Sue, but is often over-looked in this kind of test.
Further down this test, there is a list of traits and characteristics, each one stating how many points that particular trait is worth. Simply read through the list, and give your character the appropriate number of points for each of the listed traits/characteristics displayed by your character.
When you reach the end of the list, add up all of your character's points and refer to the results at the very bottom of the test to see (approximately) where your character is on the Sue Scale.
Now, while you're taking this test please also take into account
The Mary Sue: An AnalysisThe Mary Sue: An Analysis5 years ago in Articles & Interviews More Like This
ONLY THE INTRO PARAGRAPH ISN'T FUNNY... RAWR
First, let us ask ourselves: What is a "Mary Sue"? By definition, a Mary Sue is "...a fictional character with overly idealized and hackneyed mannerisms, lacking noteworthy flaws, and primarily functioning as a wish-fulfillment fantasy for the author or reader." At least, that's the definition on Wikipedia. In layman's terms, a Mary Sue is, simply put, "the perfect you." She (or he, "Gary Stu"s will be discussed later as they are indeed different) is your perfect get away. A succinct and completely flawless rubber suit for you to wrap yourself up in, and escape reality for a few blissful turns of the page. They're constant pop ups all around the internet. Mainly, in fan-fiction and fan comics. But they've also popped up several times in published and printed media as well, and not just in recent novels like Twilight. We may not know it, but Mary Sues have been around us for years, perhaps even centuries. What we further don't s
Review-rant of twilightI was bored and felt the need to write this out. First off, I have read all the Twilight books. Three times actually. I wanted to know why some people would say that Its the best book ever!! and SMeyer is a genius! etc. After reading the quartet for the third time, I still think its just an Anne Rice AU fan fiction gone horribly, horribly wrong.Review-rant of twilight6 years ago in Short Stories More Like This
For now Im going to write a review for just the book Twilight. Later if I feel like it, Ill do the other three. So lets do this.
SMeyer starts off by telling us all the details of Bellas departure. First off, a good writer will show you what she wants you to know. They wont tell you every little detail about what the character is wearing and the weather in the city and ZZZZ its boring!
Also, right away I was put off by Bella because she has this façade of Oh Im so self-sacrificing for my mother but at the same time she is whining about it.
The Mary Sue Litmus TestHolepunch's Mary Sue Litmus Test:The Mary Sue Litmus Test4 years ago in Articles & Interviews More Like This
Ah, the Mary Sue. We can't cobble together a truly comprehensive description of what they are, exactly, but we can agree on one thing: an annoying, 'perfect' character who, through a general lack of flaws and character development, is excruciating to sit through and often makes us gnash our teeth, tear our hair, and reach for the back button. This nefarious creature can be measured and detected, so let's all grab our magnifying glasses and get classifying.
This is a subjective subject; a trait that drives one person right up the wall might fail to get any reaction from another. As you go through the list, count up the points. Each trait will register from 1-5 points, with 1 being a mild thing and 5 being a serious infraction. If a trait is not addressed at all in the story the character comes from, or is totally unknown, just ignore it. And don't worry about racking up pointsthe de-Suifier part of the test ought to restore some balance to
How Not to write a Mary SueHow Not to write a Mary Sue4 years ago in Writing More Like This
How Not To Write A Mary Sue
So, what is a Mary Sue? It is used as a form of criticism in literature and refers to an idealised and somewhat "perfect" character that appears to have no flaws or if they do they are so limited that all the "perfect" characteristics overwhelm them making the character "flat." Mary sue often refers to a young female protagonist and male "Mary Sues" are often called "Larry Stu".
From my experience most Mary Sues are written in non-published works usually by young writers especially in fan-fiction. However there are a few Mary Sue writers who are actually published (sadly). It shows a deep lacking to create perfect characters unless it's done for satirical purposes.
So why should you avoid writing Mary Sues? Simple, perfect is boring!
We don't like perfect, we don't want perfect! Ask anyone in a relationship to list the positives traits, charms and idiosyncrasies of their partner and I guarantee at least one will be something that is weird, annoying, bizarre
Mary-Sue huntingMary-Sue HuntingMary-Sue hunting8 years ago in Humor More Like This
Mary-Sue's are indeed the scum of the artistic and literary universe. Their perfect looks; abilities and personalities are enough to make mortals like you and me throw-up. How can we read/look/watch our hentai if there are 'perfects' everywhere? But I, Ozu-Kenji, am a master at Mary-Sue hunting. Mary-Sue hunting is an artwork in itself, because it expresses your inner-self perfectly: You hate those damn Mary-Sues!
But this guide will explain everything in how to kill or at least maim Mary-Sues. So lets begin shall we?
Lesson 1.): Know thy enemy!
Mary-Sues come in all forms, but all are incredibly good-lookin. So you must steel your soul and remind yourself that those 'things' are evil and must be destroyed! But how do I know what kind of Mary-Sue is it, and what would be the best way to murder the thing? Well, here is a list of the buggers for you!
Mary-Sue: Standard Mary-Sue. Usually female, teenager, odd hair and eye-colour (they can even change over time), very attr
Eclipse recap-rantAbusive sparkly boyfriend and Super-duper Mary-sue the book! Part 3.Eclipse recap-rant6 years ago in Short Stories More Like This
To recap New Moon: Eddy is pretty and leaves Bella, Jacob becomes a doggy, nothing can freaking kill Bella, Bella leads Jake on, Ed attempts suicide by sparkling, and Eddy and Bella get back together without so much as a glare from Bella-sue. Oh and Bella is still a bitch to her dad.
This book seems to have a whole lot more of nothing in this book, so I feel this is going to be a bit longer than the other two. So just to warn you, this might be a longer read.
I have put on my robe and wizard hat. Im ready to do this.
Alright, so I dont usually do the preface because its just a hint at what horrible fate awaits Bella, however I feel I must comment on this one. This book is the only one with an actual fight scene and this preface makes it seem so much more dramatic than it is. Now if someone had actually DIED or had been hurt, this would have been a lot tenser. However, this is SMeyer an
How to Make an Awesome OCHow to Make Your OC Awesome without Making Him/her Into a Mary-sue/Gary-stuHow to Make an Awesome OC5 years ago in Reviews & Guides More Like This
By Prof. Naga BA, MH
There are tons of guides about avoiding the creation of a Mary-sue/Gary-stu throughout the internet, but nobody ever say anything about making it awesome. Admit it, people. I know you have this problem. Even I have. But then I found a way-a way that will make the title into reality if you do it nicely and diligently. One single drop of ignorance and you're toast. There are steps to reach enlightenment. Scroll down and you'll know it.
ATTENTION: This guide is not for minor OCs that only appears for a very brief moment. If you're making a story and you want minor OCs for villains -- you can actually make them into a Sue/Stu, because Sues and Stus are meant to be annihilated.
Step 1: Themselves
1.1 The Protoform
Where does your OC come from? Most fanfic writers (especially girls) make their OCs based on themselves. They can also inspire by someon
Recap-rant of New MoonMr. Sparkle-pants part duex! Ok, so to recap Twilight: Bella moves herself to Washington, complains the whole way there, treats her dad like crap, meets perfect controlling Eddykins, they love each other and are full of love, Bella-sue is almost eaten and Edward has some serious mood swings.Recap-rant of New Moon6 years ago in Short Stories More Like This
I think that's about right. Now we move to New Moon! I had loads of fun writing the last review/rant so I'm going to do all the books. Everyone should feel like Bella! Speshul.
Cue the dream sequence! In this dream Bella's subconscious realizes that Edward is a control freak. She's an old lady while Edward is still "perfect" and 17. He's forcing her to do something she doesn't want to do and even this mary-sue realizes it. But of course nothing can make me happy with this book and Bella wakes up and lets us know it's her birthday. Oh no! You're turning 18?! The horror. Suck it up.
And then we can't go one page without hearing about how wonderful Eddy is, so on the next page