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Llamas on the Run

Thu Feb 26, 2015, 7:59 PM
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Llama on the Lam

They knew there would be no escaping the security measures of the Arizona “llama ranch” where they were incarcerated, spending their days growing out their woolen coats, greatly valued by hipster trendsetters. They received no benefit from their wool, expropriated with no recompense by their rancher overlords. They were allowed to live so long as the quality of their wool remained high. But there would be no stud farm retirement. Just a visit from the llama meat vendor.

So the break for freedom would have to happen at the weakest link in “llama control.”

The three comrades feigned illness to get loaded onto the trailer for a trip to the “animal therapist.” Nights had been spent sneaking into the barn to chew on the trailer door lock, weakening it enough to be busted open with a single mighty llama kick. At Third and Main, Bennie kicked open the door at a red light. He and Che then hit the asphalt running. But Larry froze with fear, cowering in the trailer. The plan was to follow the freeways after dark into Mexico, and then continue south, eventually hooking up with the L.R.M. (Llama Resistance Movement) in the mountains in Peru. It was not to be. Dozens of Llama Patrol special agents appeared and converged on the rebel runners.

Bennie and Che failed this day. But their cause lives on. Their few moments of freedom in the sun will long be recounted around llama campfires.

Llamas have a storied history on DeviantArt.

Back in our early days supporting application skins, staff and superdeviants also spent time on Winamp, which, historically, really whips the llama's @$$. The whimsical, woolen creature easily made its way into DeviantArt's farmland, and the rest is history. In 2005, an oversized llama emoticon burst dramatically on the scene when it was added to our chat network. Everyone either loved or hated it, but one thing became clear: DeviantArt has a weird thing for llamas.

In 2010, an April Fool's event kicked off the ability for deviants to gift llama badges unto each other, because why not? Llamas have been spitting their way into the hearts of millions ever since.

To do this, visit the Profile Page of the deviant of your choice, click “Give” in the top right corner, and select “Give a Llama Badge.”

Your Thoughts

  1. There are now over 158,000 llamas and 100,000 alpacas in North America. Is there a logical reason for this or is this an example of a practical joke gone horribly wrong?
  2. Bottle–fed llamas tend to spit on humans when they become adults, so bottle–feeding should be kept to a minimum. Spitting is used to keep order in llama society. Has a llama ever spit on you?

PE: Seniority, What Does It Mean?

Fri Feb 27, 2015, 4:00 AM by Astralseed:iconastralseed:

Senior Week

Seniority on DeviantArt is that cool thing that gives a user a pretty medal next to their username. Today I'd like to shine a bit of light on what seniority actually means.

Before we dive into all of this though I'd like to start out by quoting FAQ #29: How do I become a Senior Member?

"So what does it take to become a Senior? That's a question many have asked and have never really been able to get a straight answer on. Some have gained Seniority as a thank you for their time spent as a Volunteer, or to recognize their contribution to a particular project or collaborative action. Some have gained Seniority because of their community spirit, providing help and assistance to many other deviants and taking time out to promote the work of others in the community.
Some people have received Seniority because of their artistic endeavour, having a positive influence on their peers by sharing resources, providing constructive criticism and by being a voice that stands out above the many others who deviate to be recognized in the crowd."

Over the years there has been much debate over seniority in general, and within those debates you'll often find many different opinions in regards to what seniority is and/or should be.  With this in mind I asked my watchers for their input, which can be read in full here, and gave them the following questions to answer.  


What do you feel Seniority means on DeviantArt?


Seniority, to me, has always meant that the user has done something to make them stand out in the crowd - be it as an exemplary artist, a community leader/supporter, an educator, or someone who's made contributions to DeviantArt as a network or a company. It's not an end-all be-all status, or a "top of the mountain" sort of achievement. It's more of an accreditation of our efforts by site staff, I guess.


I feel like seniority is a super high honor that takes a lot of work to achieve, it's one of my goals to one day receive that honor but I feel like it would never happen.


I'm not sure, because one one hand I'd like to say its the people who help out with the community and have high quality art, and are generally well liked and respected and deserve a way to commemorate that, but we all know that isn't true. It seems to be a sign of an important voice and opinions that should be listened to, and people that we regular users and supposed to respect. However considering there are quite a few completely rude, hateful, untalented and arrogant seniors, I'm not really sure what we are supposed to think seniority means at all. Maybe its people who the staff like, or people willing to take up for da staff's decisions.  


I think it should mean that the member has demonstrated a love of the community consistently, that they interact with other deviants, and that they consistently try to uplift the other members of the community. I think it means that the member in question has shown that they have a true love for :dalogo:, despite any problems it may have, and would rather work towards an amicable solution in the community than to insult and belittle the staff for their efforts - even when they disagree with them. Because, as seniors, they know that the best way to solve the problems they have with the site is to approach them with the intent to resolve them rather than to approach them with belligerence - anger is rarely effective in swaying someone of an opposite opinion.

As we can see there is some diversity in regards to what people feel Seniority actually means.  It is my belief that the diversity stems from the fact that seniority is granted for so many different things, and that there is a plethora of personalities to be found within the senior members, that it's simply difficult to pinpoint its meaning in any one way.  


Do you expect Seniors on dA to act a certain way? If so, in what way?


I expect seniors to act exactly how they'd act if they weren't seniors. Even if that means not being active in the community or being a voice of dissent rather than support, it just shows how diverse of a group we are! There are over 1400 senior members onsite, and there's no need any of us should be held to a higher standard than a regular user. I didn't sign some new terms of service when I got my seniority. I expect to be disciplined for the same things I would have been discliplined for before. Nothing more, nothing less.


I expect them to be very kind and supportive of everyone, even those who have bad art.


I just expect them to be themselves and not pretend to be nice or be the person they're not. I saw some of them acting too nice that they appear all fake, I feel like they're wearing a mask and hiding their true being. They often say things the way others want to hear. Nobody is obliged to express the way others expect to see. Everyone, no matter which symbol they have, must feel free to express and say the things the way they feel like to.


I used to think seniors might be more polite because of their higher status or at least more helpful for the community but nowadays when I see seniors that I don't personally know I expect some sort of holier than thou attitude and a fare share of deviantart elitism. Seniors come in strong cliques and have a ways about them that gives off a "I'm better than you" attitude. It's easy to get frustrated with people you are, for some reason beyond me, expected to have respect for, when they are arguably notoriously rude and elitist.


I answered part of that above. :D But, I expect them to be willing to stand up for themselves and others, to be willing to listen to both sides of an argument, and to speak their minds in a civil way. (I'm specifically thinking of something I saw over a year ago on a site update where the "senior member" acted with exactly the same level of childishness as everyone else who decided that denigrating the staff was an appropriate response to address something they didn't like about a change.)
I would expect to see a senior member leaving comments not only on the most wonderful works of the site, but also on those which need some improvement from those individuals who shoe potential. Obviously I don't expect that they would waste time on those who just throw up whatever all over the site, but those users who actually share their pieces with the hope of improving their skills and growing as artists.

This is a wonderful example of how different the views in regard to senior expectations can be.  Since there are no real requirements to follow once one has been seniored, placing specific expectations onto them is naturally a bit unfair.  

However, if the community views seniority as a status rather than an award, it only makes sense that the community might have expectations from seniors.  Perhaps something that warrants further thought?


Do you know any Seniors?


I know... a lot of senior members. Probably over a thousand on a username basis, and several hundred on a first-name basis. Some from the founding days of the site, some staff members from across the years, some community types, some artists who just inspired the community enough to get noticed. I also suggest a lot of seniors regularly - everyone should suggest people who should become seniors! It's a great way to show people who inspire you on the large scale that the site appreciates them and what they do.


I do! I KNOW MYSELF, BRO! :giggle: But really, I do know a lot of seniors now that I am one. I did not know a ton of seniors before being made one. Maybe seniors are a little cliquey :noes: Also, the seniors I know are generally the ones who are active on dAmn chats. I don't see many seniors outside of chats.


I do, and the ones I know are amazing deviants. My senior friends are what I think seniority should be, and probably what people new to DA assume seniority is - well liked users that are welcoming to new members, active members of the community, friendly and talented artists. (and no I don't mean "hugboxes", I just mean approachable and easy to talk to) However, I only have gotten to know a small number of seniors, and my closest senior friend I knew before they were even a senior. I like only knowing a few of them because most of them that I've interacted with I'd like to stay away from. The senior friends I have are wonderful - and not an accurate reflection of the senior community as a whole.


Only in passing. I don't know any of them well enough to say, "Hey, I know them!" and I'd definitely never be able to win lintu47's game. But, I do see them actively about the community, especially in groups that are geared towards promoting community endeavors (dAWishingWell, All-about-features, ArtInOurHeart). This is a two-way street, though. I didn't meet any seniors - or CVs - and I would never have left commentary on a staff member's work - until recently. Seniors, like community volunteers, are here for the :dalove:, so it's a matter of "coming out of the shell" and actually communicating with them. I feel that the reason I didn't know any seniors before wasn't because they were unapproachable, but because I'm a bit of an introvert and didn't make the effort to step out of my box. wink

It is indeed very true that seniors can be cliquey, though that may be because most seniors share the same love for involvement in the community, and as a result see and talk to each other regularly and know each other well.  
Generally speaking, seniors don't usually exclude others for their lack of status on DeviantArt.

Many seniors are quite approachable and don't bite, okay.. maybe a few nibble a little bit.  It's okay to reach out to a senior for help, most of us are happy to help when we can.  Just bear in mind that not all seniors are cute and cuddly (just like any type of user) so it's best to approach those who you see engaging others with positivity.    


 Do you have any other thoughts to add about Seniority on DeviantArt?


Seniority comes with some great perks, and added notability, but it's not something you should use to gauge whether you've been successful or appreciated on DeviantArt. It's a big group of users with a lot of diverse experiences and journeys on the site, and there are no set criteria. Don't make it something you need to have to validate your existence on DA. And don't get too mad if you see inactive seniors. Sometimes we're doing crazy things behind the scenes, and sometimes seniors are gone from the site for reasons that you'd not want them to lose their status over. I wrote an editorial about it a while back - A Senior's Rant - that might be worth a read. I guess the big message is: We're users just like you, at the end of the day.


I think it's an "ok" thing to give out but I don't think it has any meaningful impact on reputation or perception, at least, not as far as I'm concerned - I treat everybody the same (with respect and manners) unless given reason otherwise. Seems fair :shrug:
Maybe you guys should get slightly different coloured comment boxes or something, to make your interactions stand out more than just a symbol by your name? It doesn't seem enough for what you've done and no doubt have endured.


I think it's important for the community to understand what seniority is. I know it's tough because there are no set rules about what one has to do to gain seniority, but nonetheless it's important. Generally, seniors are given the tick/medal because of their contributions to the community as a CV, staff member, artwork, or community spirit. While there are currently no guidelines for seniors on how to behave... I don't think it would hurt for such guidelines to exist. If a senior member has a problem with being approachable then I don't think they deserve the medal. Seniors should be role models and set a good example for other community members to step up and be active, contributing members as well.  


I think the values of seniority are something every deviant should aspire to (leadership, community service, responsibility), but I don't think people should get too worked up about attaining the status.  People should and can be "seniors" even if they don't have a badge next to their name :)

    I think all that needs to be said here has mostly been covered.  DanielleMWilliams makes a particularly important point, that is worth taking to heart if you're striving towards seniority on DeviantArt.  

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Suicide Rant

Journal Entry: Thu Feb 26, 2015, 10:45 AM
Has anyone else noticed that suicide only seems to matter nowadays if the victim fits a certain mold?

White, straight, cis person kills themselves. Eh, nobody cares. Probably did it cause their mom wouldn't buy them expensive clothes.

Trans person kills themselves. Oh, poor baby!!! The world is so unfair!

Gay/bi/pan/etc. person kills themselves. People should learn to respect others! Rest in peace, honey.

Does anyone see a problem here? Suicide is suicide, regardless of who does it. Yes, I agree that some people do it for really dumb reasons, but you shouldn't care only about the "misunderstood" people and not give a shit about the ones who seem to have "the perfect lives" or what the hell ever excuse you want to make for not giving a damn about anyone besides minorities.

Yes, it's awful that trans people and the like commit suicide because they're not respected. Like Leelah Alcorn. I've changed my mind a bit about her death, to be honest. I still think it's horrible that her parents made her feel so unloved and uncared for, but she took a really shitty route when it came to fixing the problem. If you're a person who gets shit because of your sexuality or gender identity, killing yourself because of it isn't very smart. Why? Because if you stay alive, you can be a beacon of light for others like you. You can help them and give them the support that the people in your life never gave you.

Plus, I can't imagine how the truck driver who ran her over must feel. If you're bound and determined to kill yourself (which I still wish you'd reconsider and not do in the first place), do the world a favor and don't drag innocents down with you. If I ran over someone or did anything to cause their death, I wouldn't be able to live with myself. I hate when people kill themselves, but I also hate when they feel it's necessary to put others through anguish just to end their lives. That's just passing the pain you feel onto another person before you go. Why continue the cycle?

Yes, her parents were assholes. Yes, it's wonderful that she stood up for the trans community. Yes, she was still a bit selfish for killing herself because of it instead of being a fighter. If I was trans, I'd rather be known for being the person who stood up to the bullshit and lived than the person who killed themselves because of it.

Stop acting like everyone would have still cared about her had she not been trans. You can bet your ass that if she was just a random kid, nobody would have gotten so worked up. really sad. It is. You don't know what that "perfect" person with "everything going for them" may actually be going through, so don't just jump to conclusions and say their death doesn't matter when they pop a gun in their mouth and pull the trigger or tie a rope around their neck. Even if they are cisgendered, white, or straight.

I just despise how hypocritical people can truly be. Sorry for going off on a tangent about Leelah, but the point is that if you care so much about suicidal people, act like it. Don't give a damn about only the people who are "different". Trust me, suicide's a bigger issue than many of the people on here and the tumblrites think it is. It's not just a problem among groups of depressed teens and minorities. There are plenty of people all over this world who just can't handle life anymore, and you don't hear a word about it when they end it all.

A lot of the people who kill themselves and get the recognition for it had the opportunity to get help and make it through. Many others don't. Think about that for a bit.

I'm not saying the minorities who kill themselves don't matter. I will never say that. I'm just saying that suicide is not a problem that only certain people deal with, and that if you're going to care about them and try to eliminate or at least lessen the suicide epidemic, you should care about all victims.

I can't wait to see how many people read this and deem me a heartless bitch.

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I'm goin to Japan

Thu Feb 26, 2015, 1:38 PM

I've already mentioned this several places, but I don't think I officially did on my DA...? Anyway, yeaa!

I'm leaving March 17th and staying there until April 15th. So about a month. I'm staying with my old best friend I knew from highschool who went there to teach English. It's like my highschool dream come true, haha.

Honestly, I am pretty nervous...! ;;; I don't really know that much Japanese. I'm gonna go reside in a place where the country and people and language and society are completely foreign to me. Something I've never done before. I'm so nervous!! ;;

All that being said I'm pretty excited.. I'm going to be residing in a more rural area but I'm going to visit Tokyo for a week and hit up Kyoto and Osaka too I think. I'm gonna take toooooons of pictures! *o*; I mean, I'll be there for a month, haha. Vlogging will probably also happen, too!

For people who have gone, or know the place well, any suggestions for cool spots to visit? Or even just tell me how your experience in Japan went so I know things to expect! (:

Talk to you all soon! xoxo

PS. Next journal entry I'd really like to update these buttons on the bottom, lol.. ;;

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Thu Feb 26, 2015, 8:05 PM

im sick of this

Journal Entry: Thu Feb 26, 2015, 9:04 AM
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i am so sick of seeing this even though im trying my best to ignore it
it always pops up eventually and i want to fucking suffocate somebody when it does

basically i am just sick and tired of popular deviants treating their fans like shit. unless they are as popular as they are, they get ignored or treated in the worst way possible. and yes, im talking about both myself( as a fan) and other deviants. recently i just asked someone for a myo in exchange for like 5 customs and they sent me one of the rudest notes ive ever got. bluntly accusing me of being ignorant and arrogant simply because i didnt (at the time) understand what "indefinitely" meant. im sure they could've just answered politely like "thank you for your offer, but i do not accept" or something of the sort. it takes a lot less time and at least spares your fan's feelings. 

so this is why i stray away from popular deviants unless they watch me first. im not saying all are like this, but a vast majority think they can treat everyone like garbage just because  they know they are more "superior" . smh


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